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Mike McAbee: 25 Years of Dive Bars, Frankville & the RW24 Kickoff | Sven on the Road
Jul 28, 2026
Mike McAbee: 25 Years of Dive Bars, Frankville & the RW24 Kickoff | Sven on the Road
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0:02
Hey, welcome everybody. Full Spectrum Cycling here in River West just before the River West 24 starts. There you go. Got Mike McAbee, one-year anniversary of doing this last year. [laughs] Hi.
0:14
[laughs] Mike is playing here at Vegas tonight, 8:00 to 11:00, but you'll probably not know that because this is gonna come out later. Yeah, yeah, right. But, uh, we thought we'd catch up with Mike.
0:24
Uh, he's been, uh, doing some touring around the Midwest playing his music, and basically just wanna catch up. We've got a few things to chat about. Yeah. Uh, where do you wanna start? Oh, I don't know.
0:37
Um, since last year I had triple bypass surgery. Good place to start. [laughs] So I'm doing good. Yeah. Yeah, it's- That was a, a couple of month, uh, hiatus from the playing out on the road. Yeah, yeah.
0:49
It was, it was, uh... It wasn't the worst thing that ever happened to me. It's not like having somebody leave you, [laughs] you know? Like- Oh.
0:56
[laughs] Like, I can think of relationships that were way more painful than this experience, right? It was all right, so. I wish we could flip the camera. There's a tall bike guy going by over there. Oh, yeah. Uh-huh.
1:05
So we're about, uh, an hour and a half from the start of the 24, and people are, are milling about, getting their camps set up, getting their bikes all ready to go.
1:15
And about 7:00 PM we'll have at least 2,000 people rolling through the neighborhood here- Yeah... for the River West 24. And this is your third year here? Second year here. Second year here, okay. Yeah. I don't...
1:27
It seems like you've been here more often or something. [laughs] Oh. Well, I, I'm ubiquitous. Yeah.
1:33
Uh, tell some folks here on the old schmiggity-schmack about just kinda what your schtick is, your, your type of music, how you handle the, the solo, uh, musician life.
1:44
Well, I've been a professional musici- musician for, I can't say it. I've been a musician for a living for 25 years, as pretty much my only job. I do drive a little semi in the fall.
1:55
It's like 10% of my income comes from driving truck. Just keep my man card. I used to be a truck driver, you know. There you go. Man card's important. Previous to being a musician.
2:03
So, um, yeah, I travel around mostly the Midwest, but I'll go out East Coast sometimes or go down to Florida, and, and, uh, just play little bars, little dive bars, and I love it.
2:13
And I used to get a little airplay on the radio and stuff in Iowa back in the day, but, like, that was really cool and, and flattering I guess.
2:22
But, like, you know, I kinda ran my course as, like, a singer-songwriter, and that's fine. I still get people, you know, 20 years later that wanna hear the same songs that, you know, I was playing back then.
2:32
[laughs] And it's cool. It's cool that I wrote something that sat enduring, you know? Um- Yeah, sure... but, um- I, I, I have a, a koozie with... We'll talk about this koozie a lit- Oh, yeah... a little bit. Uh-huh.
2:41
Yeah. But I have a koozie with one of your song titles on it. Oh, yeah, yeah. I Like to Pee Outside. Hell yeah. [laughs] And, um, yeah, and, uh, I just, um... Yeah.
2:50
But I'm just content playing little bars and traveling around the country. I love to travel, you know? And Milwaukee's great. I don't usually play cities. I usually play towns of, like, less than 1,000 people.
2:59
La- my last show was in Arkansas, Wisconsin, which is unincorporated and over by, like, Durand on Highway 10. So yeah, um- Cool... that's my MO, I guess. So.
3:11
And your, uh, last year, I mean, we were at the show last year. I remember you had a sheet with, uh, hundreds of songs on it. Oh, yeah, uh-huh, and I just let people request whatever they want.
3:20
I try to know, like, a bunch of different stuff, but, you know obviously, like, I don't know anything new, new. No Benson Boone? I don't even know what that is. See? [laughs] Yeah, uh-huh. But the thing is nobody...
3:31
Most people don't care. Like, I'm really lucky that I became a musician when the internet, when MP3s came out because, um, 'cause you can find a 20-year-old kid now that snuck into a bar that loves Johnny Cash, right?
3:42
Sure, sure.
3:43
Because he's been exposed to it, where if, uh, you know, and m- that's music he would never heard of unless it was on the radio or he physically bought the album or 8-track or cassette in the, you know, in the '80s.
3:53
So it's kinda like the, you know, like, I don't really need to learn a lot of new stuff. It's fun, though. I get bored, so, like- Sure. Um, so c- I try to learn three, four songs a year.
4:03
You know, something fun, something different. Yeah. But it- Write some stupid shit, you know? I mean, what I remember growing up, you know, you had FM radio was- Yeah...
4:10
kind of the big thing, and basically you're at the mercy of, like, three or four different program directors because that's however many stations played whatever kind of rock and roll or whatever- For sure, yeah...
4:20
country you liked. Yeah. And one, one person, usually a guy but not always, was in charge of the entire playlist. Right.
4:27
And, uh, with the internet now, obviously you've got a lot more diversity in what you can listen to and- Oh, yeah...
4:32
how easy it is to find stuff that might interest you versus having it kinda shoved down your throat in the old days. Yeah, no shit.
4:39
And the thing is, like, um, like what I explain to my 14-year-old is like, you know, we didn't have classic rock stations even when we were young.
4:46
I mean, you know, they, they came about, about the ni- in the '90s, you know? It was just called rock. [laughs] It was just what was popular right then. Yeah.
4:52
And then once in a while they might throw a song on from, like, five years ago, you know, into the mix. "Hey, remember this?" You know?
4:58
But, like, there wasn't even classic rock stations, so there was no exposure to old music almost at all, um, unless they decided to play it on some, you know, whatever. But, um, yeah, so now that stuff's everywhere.
5:09
It's really, you know, like, there's just music everywhere. The great... This, it's amazing what has endured, you know, and, like, what is nobody cares about anymore.
5:17
[laughs] Uh, like the stuff my 14-year-old listens to, like The Smiths and The Cure and that, you know? And I've told Lula, my kid, like, "If I was listening to music when...
5:28
If I was your age and listening to music that old, I'd be listening to music from World War II." Wow. Yeah, that's a good perspective to put it on. Yeah. Cool. Um,
5:37
well, since I mentioned it before, I just think this is such a great story. I've got, this is another one of your koozies here. It says, "Keep Frankville wet and lit." Yeah.
5:46
Explain just a little bit about what that, why [laughs] that came about, but I think it's a really cool story. Well, I live in an unincorporated town in an old bank that I restored that used to be a bar,
5:57
and there was a c- committee of people that kept the streetlights on because the county wouldn't pay for it. And, um, blah, blah, blah, one thing led to another, and now I am the committee that keeps the streetlights on.
6:08
It's just pretty much me. And, um, you know- And so I have a party every year called Keep... And I'm also on the water committee. We have a cluster well there.
6:16
So we have a party every year called Keep Frankville Wet and Lit, you know, and we sell T-shirts and, and obviously can cozies and stuff. Yep.
6:22
And, um, I put a pop machine up in town, and we use some of the money from the pop machine, uh, to help pay for the streetlights. But right now it's defrosting.
6:33
There's like a l- I put, I made a community page for us, and I put a note on the community page that says, "Hey, the pop machine's defrosting.
6:39
If you want a pop, plug it in, get a pop, and then unplug it again 'cause we need to get the ice out of there." And, um- So humid and warm probably in this- Yeah. It's, I've never had that happen to it before. Yeah.
6:48
But I don't know whatever I'm hoping. It's not taking dollar bills, and it drives me nuts. I just... Whatever. [laughs] It's the second dollar bill changer I've put in there and whatever.
6:57
It's, uh- So, uh, as we're doing this, it's, it's Friday, July 24th. Yeah. And as I mentioned at the top of the show, this is River West 24 here in Milwaukee.
7:06
But, uh, simultaneous to this is, uh, RAGBRAI's going on- Yeah... in Iowa, which is- Uh-huh... that's a big deal in Iowa. Uh- Yeah, a lot of friends on it...
7:16
I- And I got a little FOMO going on because I should be riding this week, but I just- I w-...
7:21
too much in the surgery and stuff and I, you know, like, um, I wanted to get some things done, and that's a ti- it's a huge time commitment, you know? Yeah. Some folks have used the, uh,
7:32
first few days of RAGBRAI as kind of a warmup for the 24. So you go out there and do- [laughs]... 70, 80 miles a day, and then you come here and do the River West 24. And just ride around in circle, yes. Yeah. Yeah.
7:41
I mean, the winners of this event today will do 300-plus miles in 24 hours. Yeah. So they're not goofing around. They're- Right. Oh, yeah. No. You know, they're in it to... There are still people in it to win it. Uh-huh.
7:50
Yeah. But, um, uh, we had, uh, Corey Bauman on our show last week. He's the bonus checkpoint manager.
7:58
And besides running laps around and having to hit four checkpoints on the River West 24, there are 36 bonus checkpoints this year where if you stop at it and do whatever the task is, like where we're at at Vegas Pub right now- Yeah, uh-huh...
8:11
I just, James was telling us about one of the tasks is to play Mario Kart. Mario Kart. [laughs] Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. It's like four-person Mario Kart- Uh-huh... is one of the things.
8:19
But, uh, there's a, a huge diversity of stuff. Some of it is community-oriented, making sandbags, feeding people, you know, just doing all sorts of stuff- Yeah. Uh-huh... to help the community. It's a real...
8:29
It's such a positive event, you know? Yeah. Um, when I was, uh, why I brought RAGBRAI up, it, did, has it ever gone through Franksville? I know it's- Frankville? Frankville. It's right at the core of it. No.
8:39
It came pretty close once. It came close enough that I had a party at my house. Okay. And I had a couple hundred people show up. Um, and th- that's, it was like, oh God, it was 2016 probably, uh, 2017 or something.
8:53
It, it came, like, to Waukon, Decorah, which is, like, these two towns are real close to me.
8:58
So I had a party at my house 'cause all the people that I've stayed at and partied at their house all over Iowa on other RAGBRAIs.
9:04
And, um, that's when I initially set out a bucket for the f- old nice ladies that did the Frankville to raise money for the streetlights. And then they just kind of gave it to me.
9:14
[laughs] And somehow I wound up, like, just me and, um, and my friend Janet. She's, um, she's in her 70s, and she's, she still helps out, you know. But, you know, we don't... Whatever. It doesn't take too much.
9:26
It's just kind of a fun little volunteer thing, you know? Yeah. Cool. And so... But yeah, that was the biggest...
9:31
I've been married three times, and that was bigger than any wedd- wedding reception I ever had- [laughs]... was this party in my yard for RAGBRAI. That's nice. There are buses showing up and stuff.
9:38
And, like, the best compliment I got was some guy's like, "Is this really somebody's house?" [laughs] Like, I thought that was great. Yeah. I haven't been to it yet.
9:45
I'd like to check it out next time I'm in the neighborhood there 'cause I, it's, it's an old bank building.
9:49
It just, I've always liked that kind of a architecture and sort of the, the vibe of a, having a fortress around you. [laughs] Yeah.
9:56
That's kinda why I bought it 'cause it just felt like a, a fort I could put my stuff in and go run around the country, you know? It's my fort. Yeah. My fort.
10:02
[laughs] But while you're, well, at least during the summer, you do rent it out as an Airbnb. Yeah. It's called The Night Deposit.
10:09
If you're ever in the neighborhood of Decorah, and you want somewhere to stay, it's a little bit out of town. Toppling Goliath is a really popular brewery there. And, uh, it's about a 10-minute drive from my house. Okay.
10:18
On, on, on blacktop, which is a big thing in Iowa- Yeah... 'cause there's lots of gravel, you know? Lot of gravel. So there's no gravel involved in it.
10:24
And, um, I try to make it cheaper than most of the B&Bs in Decorah 'cause that's a big tourist town, and there's n- Sure... there are 90 B&Bs in that town. Holy mackerel. And there is nowhere to buy a house.
10:36
That is, that, I- You know, it really drives the- That's somewhat disturbing in a way, I think. Uh- It just drives the real estate up so much. Yeah. You know?
10:43
Um- I mean, I guess people gotta make a living somehow, but that's- Yeah, but it's-... not much of a living... hard using somebody else's house. Yeah.
10:49
And then w- like, a buddy of mine stayed at one, and then, like, they're like, "Oh, yeah, take the sheets off the bed and start the laundry when you leave."
10:54
And I'm like, "You're really paying, like, $200 a night to do your own laundry?" [laughs] Like, I don't, I don't know. I feel, I don't know. Um- I feel like I, we stay up near Hayward or Seely or- Sure, yeah...
11:05
Cable up in Northern Wisconsin. Yeah. Great area. And have- I play up in Hayward... have stayed at some, uh, Airbnbs, and for whatever reason I, I always feel like, A, I gotta be extra careful versus being in a hotel.
11:17
Yeah. Uh-huh. For sure. And it's just like, I kinda, like, feel a little creepy in there 'cause it's like s- some of them are somebody's house at some, like yours. Yeah. Like mine.
11:24
At some point it's, you know, I mean, it'd be staying with a buddy kinda there, but, you know. Uh-huh. Yeah. We make it pretty clear that, like, we live... I put a note.
11:32
Actually, there's a pic- We live on a houseboat in the summertime when we're not there.
11:35
And so there's a picture of me and Lula on our houseboat, and then it says, you know, like, "Look, we only live here in the wintertime."
11:41
You know, you can tell that we live there, but, like, we're not, none of our s- you know, it's not like our clothes and stuff are... Everything's locked away, you know? So- Okay.
11:49
And so- But yeah, I don't, in the same way I'm like, "Why would you w-" You know, when I first, before even Airbnb, when I'd stay at a BnB, I'm like, "Why is it more expensive to stay in somebody's s- spare bedroom than it is to stay [laughs] in a hotel?"
12:00
You know? Where they do more stuff for you and don't make you take the stuff off the bed. Yeah. It just, it's just weird.
12:04
You know, I go to Ireland and sing sometimes, and it's all B&Bs there, you know, and it's, it's always kinda awkward in the morning, you know? What's it, uh, what's it like living on a houseboat?
12:13
It's a nightmare, but I love it, you know? Like, uh, some- Obviously it's on the Mississippi River... shit goes wrong constantly. [laughs] Like, I... And, uh, but I wouldn't trade it, you know?
12:22
Like, it's, it's a lot of work. Um, well I bought a really cheap one, you know, and I fixed the whole thing up, so that's, it's been just constant work. We're finally this year at the point where I can like...
12:31
There's things that we need, but there's nothing that needs immediate addressing, you know? So it's... I am trying to picture what it's like. It's not just like a floating porch pontoon boat.
12:41
It's- No, it's fiberglass bottom. It's a Gibson, which is a pretty common houseboat. It's a '71. It's 36 feet long. Okay. Oh.
12:49
Um, it, they usually come like really compartmentalized inside, you know, with bedrooms and stuff, but the people that we bought it from had gutted the whole thing, right?
12:58
So like I live in like a, I got like a queen sized loft bed, and then my kid lives under me in a, in a different bedroom. You know, like a little kind of small bedroom.
13:08
And then we have like a open area that's got a couple La-Z-Boys. We got a big TV that flips down when we wanna watch TV off the ceiling, you know, and then- Cool... flip it go over the kitchen table and stuff.
13:17
It's, yeah, it's nice. It's the perfect size, you know? It's just like a little cabin, you know? Or like a tiny home. Yeah, yeah. Sweet. Except it, except it's always at a, um, risk of sinking. [laughs] So.
13:30
Well, you don't get a whole lot of, uh, waves or anything on the Mississippi, do you? Well, you know, we were living, um, we were living in a town, McGregor, Iowa, that I love.
13:38
Uh, we were living there, and we were right on the main channel, and that was, that was really cool, 'cause, you know, like, uh, watching the bar, the barges go by when you're sleeping, and then you get a little rocking motion, you know?
13:48
And then like once in a while a cruise ship goes by [laughs] and they're like right, they're like 200 feet from you, and you can like just ta- almost talk to them, you know? Like- I-... uh, that was really cool.
13:57
But now we're in a, we're kinda in a back channel, um, in Prairie du Chien. It's really nice. It's, uh, it's a little park. We're the only houseboat in the marina, so there's not anybody- Oh, okay...
14:06
else around during, you know, and we're usually just there during the week, and then on the weekends I go play. Um, my kid goes to their mom's house, you know.
14:14
Um, so it's real quiet for us, but we miss the main channel, 'cause we miss the traffic, and the... I don't think Lula misses the train much, though.
14:22
The train went right by, like about 50 feet away, and, and loud, you know? Like- I like train, trains are nice. Oh yeah, I grew up always living by the tracks, right? But, uh- Yeah...
14:31
it can be unnerving if you're not, you know... You never get used to it kinda. You always wake up, and you just go back to sleep again, you know? But- There, that person did that roundabout right.
14:40
So many people don't do... There's a, there's a roundabout right out here, and it's like- Yeah... 10% of the people know how to use a roundabout. [laughs] It's kind of like bad. Yeah. They're- [laughs]...
14:48
they're, they're putting them in everywhere now. It's... Yeah. I th- well, we, Milwaukee's had a lot of traffic calming stuff.
14:55
And it's helping because it really prevents people from passing on the right, and some other things that were getting kinda outta hand. Oh yeah, and they, you know, there's this, they're really...
15:05
I mean, people bitch about them, but it's really the most efficient way to go. They're putting two giant ones in by my house right now.
15:09
If you take 18 over here, and keep going west, you'll, you'll go to Prairie du Chien, where I live, and then right when you go over the river they're putting two roundabouts in of coming on and off the bridge there.
15:20
Okay. And I've seen so many accidents there, 'cause, uh, it's one of those things that people perceive as a four-way stop but it's not, you know? Right. Yep. So.
15:27
Yeah, I haven't been over the bridge in a, a few years, but, uh- Yeah... that's usually the way I go when I'm going to Decorah. Oh, sure. Yep, yep. So. Cool. Yeah. Well, we touched on a few things.
15:37
Anything you wanna bring up before we wrap her up? I just wanted to kinda catch up with you, and since you're in town, we might as well have a chit-chat. Yeah, yeah. I'm looking forward to riding my bike later, you know.
15:47
Um, I s- oh, I know what I was gonna tell you, 'cause I thought you'd appreciate this. So I put 200 miles on that bike. And I, I have a friend that works at, uh, Pabst Cycling up in Stevens Point.
15:56
I don't know if you're familiar. It's a little bike shop. Great place. He came down to help take care of me when I was sick, 'cause I couldn't drive. I'd have people... You know, I live out in the middle of nowhere.
16:03
Sure. So he comes down to help me take, take care of me a little bit, and he likes riding the trails in Decorah, so he brought his bike. And then I'm like, "Hey, man. Can you put my bike on...
16:11
I have a stationary trainer. Can you put it in the basement so I can get some exercise?" So he, he did that. And then I'm like, "You know, I, I'd lost my speedometer. It just broke, you know.
16:21
Like I should get a new speedometer. I wanna know how far I'm going, how fast I'm going." So I'm online looking at speedometers, and you know, they have GPS ones obviously now. And I'm like- Sure...
16:29
"Oh yeah, I'll get a GPS one." Cool. [laughs] I'm in my basement. Yeah. I'm not going anywhere. Right. [laughs] I didn't do shit, right? Like- Yeah.
16:36
[laughs] So then I had to go buy a cheap shitty one, you know, like a $5 one. Yeah. And, uh, yeah, and- Hey, that's Joe Schuler right there. Oh, there's Joe Schuler. Yeah, Joe Schuler's coming. Wow.
16:45
Uh, we thought he had too much to do. He had, he couldn't, uh- Oh, he's gonna-... couldn't spare the time, but- He's gonna come over and say hi. Old buddy of mine from Stevens Point. Right on.
16:52
Um, yeah, he, uh, or what was I gonna say about the bike thing? Oh. Yeah. Oh yeah, and then I had to put the, the sensor on the rear wheel, 'cause same thing, like I'm a idiot. Like the front wheel doesn't go anywhere.
17:01
[laughs] You know? So- Unless you're on rollers. Oh yeah, unless I'm on rollers. On rollers. But I would not try to navigate that, you know. I don't know.
17:07
I, I did the thing where you, you k- kinda learn them, and you, you're sitting in a doorway, so if it k- kinda goes cattywampus, you can do like- Oh, you can just catch yourself? Yeah.
17:15
But, uh, never really got into them. I don't know. That seems like crazy, like it, like death-defying or something. I don't know.
17:21
I, I n- I appreciate riding inside, and I, I may end up doing that this winter, but it's all, up until this point, it's always been we got fat bikes. We might as well just ride outside- Oh, yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah...
17:31
because, you know, they work outside just fine. Right. And, uh, one of the- One of the... I'm sorry. Go ahead.
17:35
Well, I was just gonna say, as I get older, some of the riding in 14 below weather, it has less appeal than it used to have. Uh-huh.
17:43
And, uh, maybe, but having something where I can just jump on it and get, you know, 10 miles in or whatever- Mm-hmm... in the house seems like not a bad idea. Yeah, yeah.
17:50
And what I really liked about it is, you know, I'm obviously, I'm obsessed, I've been obsessed with my blood pressure for a couple years now, but now I really am now since I had the surgery.
17:58
And what's nice is you can put a cuff on, and put it on a shelf next to you, and you can check your blood pressure while you're exercising. Okay.
18:04
'Cause as, there's very few exercises you can do where you can wear a cuff, 'cause it, you know, you're os- jostling around. Sure. You know, you can't wear one when you're walking or, you know, or something like that.
18:14
Um, so- Yeah, I, I have to look into it... that was, that worked out really good. I- Even better than a treadmill, you know? Yeah.
18:18
I have to look into my cuff, because I did get one just because, you know, keep track of that as you get older and whatnot. Yeah, uh-huh. Yeah. And it's, I'm have it to my, it's good, but it's controlled, blah blah blah.
18:29
But I have a Bluetooth one and I, it must have an app. That's a really good idea to put it on because when I did a stress test a while back, it just, my blood pressure went up pretty quick as I was- Uh-huh...
18:39
getting my heart rate up. And- Yeah... hopefully that's more controlled now, but- Uh-huh. Right. Yeah... I, I don't wanna explode the thing, you know- Yeah, no shit... before I'm 80 or whatever, but, uh. [laughs] Uh-huh.
18:49
All right, man. Well, I appreciate you taking the time to do this. Well, I'm honored that you thought of me for your podcast. I know. [laughs] You know? Again, that's cool. That's really cool. You know? Yeah.
18:56
Well, I know you got a, got a bunch of prep for the big show tonight, so. Oh, yeah, yeah, lots of, you know, the sca- the, the rigging and the lights and the, you know- Oh, yeah... we're gonna fly the speakers, you know?
19:06
I, I like the, uh, I like the stage that James set up for you there and- It's a cute little stage, yeah. I can't decide if that's a Grateful Dead Ukrainian flag.
19:14
I- Well, it's the, it's the Milwaukee colors for the Milwaukee flag. Of course. Duh. Yeah. I knew the Milwaukee flag. I'm stupid. Yeah, that's the Milwaukee flag. Yeah. So yeah, just- Super stupid... dead. Howdy.
19:22
Hey, how you doing? We're doing a podcast. Here comes Joe Schuler. Okay. Sorry. [laughs] Yeah. No, you- It's all right... say hi, Joe. Hi. I'm Joe Schuler. Oh. What's that? Uh. Thanks for doing that.
19:30
Yeah, we were just about to wrap up and I, we saw you guys come in and, uh- Yeah. S- I'll be in there a second. Yeah. Yeah. Well, uh, thanks very much for being on the show. Oh, this was great. Yeah.
19:38
Uh, we'll catch up with you next time- Always an honor, like I said... you're in town, or maybe I'll bother you on your doorstep at some point. That'd be awesome, yeah.
19:43
If you're ever in Decorah again, you stop and s- see me. We'll go see Deke. Yeah. [laughs] The curmudgeon of Decorah. Oh, yeah. I love, I love that guy. Like- Deke... always a treat running into him, so. All right.
19:55
Mike McAbee, everybody. See him if he's in your town. Yeah. Do that. You won't, you won't be disappointed. mikemcabee.com. And if you are, I don't think he cares. Yeah. So. [laughs] Yeah, he's ambivalent. Right.
20:06
[laughs] So. All right. Bye. Bye-bye. We'll be, we'll be back with our regularly scheduled Full Spectrum Cycling, uh, in the next couple of weeks. Early, early August. So you won't, you won't miss us too much.
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