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Weekly Dose of Fat – 8-15-14 – with Flavor Cycle – Show #17
Aug 15, 2014
Weekly Dose of Fat – 8-15-14 – with Flavor Cycle – Show #17
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0:00
This may very well be the weekly dose of Fat for Friday, August 15th, show number diez y siete.
0:10
[upbeat rock music] Fatbike.com, the world's number one resource for information on fat bike products, event and race coverage, interviews, and living the fat bike lifestyle presents Fat Bike Radio with your hosts, Sven and Gomez.
0:36
All right, this is Sven. We have Gomez here with JK Living. Hey, hey. On the same mic, snuggling up. [laughs] Sharing all the viruses- Exactly... between us.
0:47
Yep, a little bit later in the show we're gonna have Peter and Carlos from Flavor Cycle, a bicycle drive and delivery service for restaurants in Milwaukee, and we'll chat with them a little bit later in the show.
0:56
You know else, who else is here? Who? Everyone's favorite, the love doctor, Colin Forbes. [laughs] I am not a doctor. [laughs] I'm a musician. [laughs] And a brewer of fine things like tea and beer.
1:13
I don't brew any tea. [laughs] Well, this show is sponsored by the Surly Tugnut. I mean, who doesn't like to get a little tug on the nut? From Surly Bikes. Surly Bikes.
1:30
The show is also brought to you by the letter F and U, and the numbers one and seven for show number 17. Yay. [upbeat rock music] If you don't know Surly by now, dude, you might be in a coma. But- Maybe it's-...
1:48
jump out of the coma... rub your sternum You've been on the toilet for that long? [laughs] Check 'em out at surlybikes.com. It's the internet. Wake up. Yeah, [laughs] get, get the fuck out of bed.
1:59
What, what happens after we introduce Surly usually? Um, we should drink a beer. We've done about the minimum amount of work- [laughs]... to justify drinking a beer, so let's do it. We introduce the show, we drink.
2:09
I like this idea. Introduce the show, we get started, five minutes later we open beer. It's called priorities, people. Beer. So this week we've got S- in a Lakefront Brewing, uh, Oktoberfest six-pack.
2:23
[laughs] This is Mudpuppy Porter from Central Waters out there Madison way somewhere. They are in Amherst, Wisconsin. Amherst. Yeah. Up by, uh- That's up, that's up there. Oh, it's up there a little- By Steven's Point...
2:36
oh, that's up there above the Madison. But still it's- This was one of the very first beers that, uh, sponsored Gnomefest. Oh. Central Waters. Yeah. This is one of their very first beers they made, Mudpuppy Porter.
2:47
Gonna go ahead and open mine. Are you doing that with your teethises? I hope not. [laughs] I'm gonna open mine- Wow... I'm gonna open mine the old way that, uh- [laughs]... some drug addict taught me, with a lighter.
2:59
[laughs] I use my- Let me just bust this cap off... Summerfest, uh... Ooh. Oh, he- [laughs] He gets a good pop, that's for sure. [laughs] Oh. [laughs] [laughs] JK Living, everybody. Thank you for the color of the show.
3:16
[laughs] Let's have a cheers. All right, let's cheers, boys. [glasses clink] Greg almost [laughs] almost- [laughs] Sven almost drank. It was, like, so close. I, I- [laughs] Can I, do we have to cheers now?
3:29
Dark, robust, sweet. [swallows] And dark. [swallows] Yeah. I, it's- It's a dark beer. It's a porter. If you don't know what a porter is, get your ass out of the sand. Roasted, toasted malt.
3:43
Yep, lots of roasted malt, lots of caramel malt. Little, little toffee in there, too. Oh, yeah.
3:48
Yeah, that's- There's, there's, the, what you'll do with a dark beer like this is you'll add a bunch of, like, black malt, but you also add a bunch of, like, dark caramel malt to bring out that toffee taste, and all of that malt is not fermentable sugar, so the mouth feel, that thickness you get remains- Mm...
4:02
thicker sugar. It does, it's got lingering qualities to it. Lingering. Um, yeah, the yeast can't eat that sugar, so it sits around in the beer and gives it that syrupy-ish mouth feel.
4:15
This is a little hoppier than a traditional porter- No, it's not... seems like. I'm- Seems hoppy-ish. What's the ABV on this? 5%. 5.5, I believe. Yep, 5 and a half. By liberal h- okay, it does say on the label, folks.
4:31
Yep, Colin's reading the label again here. [laughs] Its multi profile is uniquely well-balanced by liberal hopping for its style, so sure, maybe it is hoppy. [laughs] All right.
4:43
I've been, I was drinking IP- For its- I was drinking IPA last night- Yeah, well-... so I don't know what the fuck I'm drinking... it's not, it's not hoppy f- for a beer. It's hoppy for its style. For its style. Yeah.
4:51
Well, yeah. I mean, porters, if you, if you have a porter that tastes like citrus, you're doing it wrong. [laughs] Anything that tastes like fruit in a beer, I'm sorry, you're doing it wrong. [laughs] Nah.
5:02
This beer will carry your mom up to bed and tuck her in tight. I, they're kinda low ABV, just so you can- On a Wednesday night...
5:11
drink 'em for a long time, 'cause you're working all day, and a working man needs his bread and a bottle. And his old woman tucked in nice and tight on a Wednesday night. Is this burpee beer yet? Burr.
5:20
No, I have not noticed yet. [laughs] Not at all. I'm not gonna do any burpees. Um- Burpees. Three, two, one. So our friends at Zion Cyclery are 50 years old, and they're having a little sale down there.
5:32
Those guy- the, the business or the people? Uh, they're s- they're- [laughs]... they're selling bikes, I think For 50 years. For 50 years they've been selling bikes. Some of the people that sell bikes are not 50.
5:42
Some are 30, some are 70, but they've been doing it for 50 years as a family. [laughs] Did I misspeak there? [laughs] [laughs] Did I slip into Español again? [laughs] It's so hard. Pigeon Spanish, thank you.
5:53
So many personalities in my head. [laughs] But anyway, go down there to Cyclery Zion Cyclery, and put the words in the right order, and buy a bike. And sell it. Chris is an awesome guy.
6:05
He helps us out on the radio show by doing sound-y things and- A good friend of Fatbike.com. Sounds tough. [laughs] Coming up next on the big show, we talk to Peter and Carlos from Flavor Cycle.
6:18
Flavor Cycle is a bicycle-fueled restaurant delivery service located in Sven's adopted hometown of Milwaukee, Wisconsin. You're tuned- You're tuned- To Fatbike Radio... Fatbike Radio, Fatbike Radio.
6:36
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7:07
This is Wyatt Ritka with Wyatt Bicycle Company, and when I'm not building bikes, I listen to Sven and Gomez on Fatbike Radio. Welcome, Carlos and Pete from Flavor Cycle here in Milwaukee. Hey, Gomez. How you doing?
7:18
Hello. Hey, good to have you guys on the show at s- such short notice. I called Pete last night and said, "Hey, would you like to be on the show?" And he said, "Absolutely." Awesome. Well, uh, yeah.
7:26
So Pete is an awesome photographer. Thank you. Uh, but yeah, w- it's nice being, uh, neighbors, living in River West. Uh, it's an easy ride down the block, so happy to be here.
7:33
Carlos is a River Westite as well, and- Yeah. We've got Colin sitting here shotgun temporarily. Yo. So, um- [laughs] And JK Livin'- So-... just for snorts and- [laughs]... snorts and boops.
7:44
So the reason that we asked Pete to show up is because this Flavor Cycle thing is a really cool, uh, Milwaukee-based business, and I just wanted Pete to talk a little bit about what Flavor Cycle is.
7:55
Flavor Cycle is basically a delivery service for local restaurants, um, and we do it all on our bicycles.
8:02
There's a crew of about 18 of us right now, but probably hard to count now, but, uh, close to 40 restaurants that we're delivering for. And this is a year-round thing. This isn't just- Oh, yeah, last winter sucked...
8:12
fair weather- Yeah. Yeah. [laughs] Last winter sucked. It just never ended. Yeah, last winter we had a record winter for snowfall, and- Oh... it, it snowed. Cold. For the fatbike people out there, it was awesome. Right.
8:23
It was. [laughs] Yeah, and then the ice storm nights where the whole city is just under two inches of sh- sheet ice, um- Yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah, there, there were some good times. It was.
8:31
But you know, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, and- [laughs] That's what they say. I'm not sure it's true. I wiped out five times that storm. On the- That's right. You were-... one day. Yeah.
8:38
Uh, the last one really hurt. Were you on a, were you on a fatbike or not? The first ones were really fun. I, like, slid, like, 20 feet. You know, it was fun.
8:43
The last time, I landed right on my elbow, and it hurt for, like, about three weeks. Were you riding a fatbike that day? I was not. Okay. I know you've ridden fat- I should have been.
8:51
Yeah, I know you've ridden fatbikes a little bit. You've, uh, taken some out there on routes. And most of the guys ride, uh, road bikes or, uh, fast bikes because time is of the essence. But in certain conditions...
9:01
Yeah, in certain conditions, the fatbike is probably the fastest thing out there in snow. There was a couple days where I would've craved a fatbike. [laughs] Yes.
9:08
Well, it's, for you guys that don't know what, uh, Pete rides, he normally rides what they call a bullet, which is a really cool cargo bike.
9:14
And, uh, a lot of the other guys ride fixed gears or single-speed m- road bikes, but, uh- Or geared road bikes with disc brakes- Yeah... like Roommate. That's what- There you go. Yeah, that's, that's...
9:24
But these are guys that love bike riding, that's for sure. Yeah, th- I mean, there's a wide assortment of bikes that we use.
9:30
Um, but yeah, bottom line is, is everybody who is involved with this whole delivery thing, uh, are bike nuts anyway, you know? Excellent. So at 40 below, how do you get the pizza there hot still?
9:39
It's fricking hot, and then they have, uh- [laughs]... hot bags which keep 'em hot. And, and, you know, we're fast. So e- there's nothing that's out in the elements- Yeah... more than, like, 15 minutes. Nice.
9:48
Yeah, you know, they can do it m- m- more quickly than a car a lot of times, so you know. Answer is, I'm a volcano. [laughs] [laughs] Sorry.
9:57
S- so one of the interesting things I found when talking to the guys that work for Flavor Cycle is they all have nicknames. Is that for- Well, we're spices. Right. Yeah. You're spicy. They're spicy. I'm Basil.
10:06
Uh, Carlos is, uh- I'm Rosemary... Rosemary. Rosemary. Then there's Thyme- Not Razors. Cayenne. People call me Razors 'cause I was super short. Cinnamon. Is Cinnamon still with you guys? Cinnamon's still around.
10:13
Cinnamon's still around. Yep. Friends of mine, too. Thyme. What's Huber's spice? Huber was Wa- Huber's Wasabi... Wasabi, yep. Oh. Wasabi. Is that a spice? Yeah. Yeah. Huber's spicy. So- So-...
10:23
so we use two-way radio app, and that's, like, our call signs. Right. Yeah, you use, uh, Zello? We use Zello, yeah. So that's how y'all keep in touch to know where to go next, and- Yes, it's-...
10:31
who's available to pick up at a certain spot in the town. It's the coolest thing ever, yeah. Works good for mountain bike road trips, too, if you don't wanna call the person in the other car a million frigging times.
10:39
Yeah, we used it during the River West 24 last year to figure out where the checkpoints were slow. So it's, like, check... or, or a bonus checkpoint is, uh... it's not busy right now.
10:47
Go to the bonus checkpoint so you're not waiting in line. Yep. Yeah, it was a good thing. You can set up your own, uh, channel- Yes... so that it's only the people you invite that can hear what you're doing.
10:55
Yeah, it's a really cool app. So, um, besides doing, uh, Flavor Cycle, you also do a lot of work with the Bike Federation- Uh, yeah, I'm, uh-... of Wisconsin. Yeah. I, I do what I can.
11:05
I help, um, I, I launched their magazine, uh- It's a sweet magazine... with Dave Soboleski. Worked really hard with that with them. Went on a couple road trips for sort of reportage kind of stuff.
11:15
Yeah, Bike Fed is fantastic. I always support them whenever I can. Yeah, Dave is a talented person. Oh, yeah. Good photographer, just like Pete. Pete's an awesome photographer, bro.
11:23
Um, Pete is not just good, he is great. Awesome. Well, thank you. [laughs] He is a true artist with a camera. Good job, Pete.
11:29
It's, it's great to have talent, uh, especially relatively underpaid talent, do stuff for a place like the Bike Fed and put out such a good product. I would...
11:37
I can't tell you that there's a better bike magazine for a, an, an organization like the Bike Fed than the one you guys put out. Thanks. It's really- Yeah... high quality.
11:47
Um, in the olden days, back what, five, four years ago, Pete did a magazine called Cog, which if you've been around a lot, was such high quality.
11:55
Uh, it, it was awesome, and I think a lot of that shows in the Bike Fed magazine. Thank you, yeah. Learned a lot. Well, cool, guys. Don't you guys have work or something to do? Yeah.
12:05
[laughs] Um, I, I- We can keep them here for a while... hey, hey, Gomez, Gomez... if Ken assists his friend. Gomez, you hungry? I do. We could order some food. [coughs] And bring 'em right back.
12:11
Yeah, well, Cal, how quickly can you guys get back? Oh, the restaurant's open in eight minutes, so, um- We can get donuts, can't we? We can get donuts, yeah. You don't, are you, are you doing deliveries for Holy Moly?
12:19
I was actually gonna do that the night and, uh, yeah. One interesting thing- I always wanted, like, super early FlavorCycle's donut delivery, but that wasn't a thing... Jesus.
12:25
You gotta, you gotta, uh, order it, pre-order it. Yeah, like l- the night before at 3:00 AM, so you- [laughs] You got the ball cut. You got the ball cut, so you know.
12:33
[laughs] We're like, "Wow, I'm working on some sort of year-long sponsorship cohabitation with the donuts every, every show, donuts and beer delivery." They're good donuts, too, yeah. Yeah.
12:43
W- one other just point that they brought up about, uh, the restaurants they work with is these are all local restaurants. They're not gonna deliver a McDonald's, uh, you know, Happy Meal for you. No, yeah.
12:51
They work with, uh, independent, local restaurants and give them an option to get this stuff around, so I think that's- It's a great community. Um, you know, uh, this started, people were friends.
13:01
Um, there's people that have come in that I've never, uh, met before, then they're like, "Hey, I wanna ride for you guys." Okay, cool. So they get involved, they become part of this little community.
13:10
A couple months later, they're moving in together, you know, roommates and stuff. Uh, some of the guys are dating girls from the restaurants. It's like this- [laughs] Woo!
13:19
Guys, if you wanna pick up waitresses, join the FlavorCycle- Yeah... 'cause you're gonna meet 'em all. Uh, yeah, there's- Ride into Colin's detention. [laughs] Want some, want some ride for it now.
13:28
But yeah, there's, like, a lot of cool things that have happened that make it pretty special. Super. Well, I appreciate you coming in on short notice.
13:33
I know that was kinda putting you under the bus, but it was really good to... And I hope that doesn't happen out on the road, [laughs] but, um, oh- The bus joke, I get it. [laughs] All right. Well, thanks, guys.
13:45
I appreciate it. Uh, pleasure. You're welcome. Later. Thanks for joining us on the Weekly Dose of Fat. You're tuned to Fat Bike Radio. Hey, quit playing with yourself. It's the Weekly Dose of Fat.
14:00
This is the weekly dose of internet fat. One of the things that exists out there on the internet is a blog, and, uh, it's by a dude who rides his bike in South Freaking America. 'Merica. And- Los Gauchos de la Plata...
14:18
Los Gauchos de la Plata. Or Las Pampas, the plains. [laughs] Des Plaines, Indiana. [laughs] So back to what I was talking about- The while-... while out riding...
14:31
while- While out riding blog is awesome and filled with amazing pictures of South America, that you're going, "I'll never ride there. I'll never be as cool as that guy.
14:41
He's just the coolest dude riding- Not with that kind of attitude, mister. [laughs] Yeah, this one's about the Lagunas route that they did a, a trip on, and the pictures are just fantastico. I drew on my keyboard.
14:54
[laughs] Not just because of that blog, I hope. [laughs] So you can check out the link on the show notes- He's riding a Surly... on all these, on all these things, yeah... and so are all his pals.
15:02
Surly Pug, a Troll, and an Ogre. I think there's a, a, a good group of names for bikes on that trip. And for you, uh, blokes out there with kids, he rides with his kids, so- On the Pampas. On the Pampas.
15:15
De Las Argentina. Our next story comes from Richie Cunningham. Hey. He wrote a story on Pinkbike, and Pinkbike hardly ever writes about fat bikes, but his story, uh, well, just a little snarky about fat biking.
15:32
We understand that. Snark? Uh, it talked about the inevitability of professional fat bike racing. Like it hasn't happened already. Right. It's inevitable? Yeah. I mean, come on.
15:40
Who was, who won that, uh- They're, they're coming from, you know, that big hit side of cycling, so they haven't necessarily embraced the fat bike side. Big hit. [laughs] But, uh- So-...
15:49
they did have a poll at the bottom that was really interesting, recommend that you click on that link, look at the poll, and vote in that poll.
15:57
It's, uh, encouraging that a lot of people that haven't necessarily ridden a fat bike are super interested in trying it. I think that's probably a good thing. People should try fat biking. Yeah.
16:09
Although, if you're listening to this show, probably already have. Probably. [laughs] So I know it's August, but this is the time of year that, uh, you get the best deals on winter gear.
16:19
One of my favorite brands, Ibex, makes the most buttery, awesome pants. Is that an, is an Ibex a... It's not a goat quite. Yeah, it's a little goat-ish thing. It's, and it's got, it's got horn things upon it.
16:30
It, it exists in the Eastern Hemisphere. France. [laughs] Exist, they're from France. They're just, they're just goats from France.
16:38
So they got their big summer sale going on, and I saw some cool stuff that I wanted, even though I have a ton of Ibex stuff.
16:45
So if you're looking for base layers, or jerseys, or even bibs made out of wool, check out Ibex.com. They got a sale going. I'm pretty sure it's Gomez's birthday next week.
16:56
Oh, yeah, there's an- You might, you might wanna go ahead and just send him Ibex gear. I don't think he will find- Poop in an envelope and send it to his house. [laughs] You can find the address in the show notes.
17:07
[laughs] All that poop, what do I do with it? [laughs] Flush it. Does your helmet smell funny? Do you have a four-legged friend? Have you experienced the dog days of summer?
17:20
Well, we have a kick-ass contest going through the month of August, and this week's secret word- Secret... secret, secret word [laughs]
17:29
is olive Like that two-timing hoe that kept Bluto and Popeye in a constant state of conflict over the delicious salty pearls that accompany a dry gin martini. I like mine stuffed with plutonium.
17:44
Check out a- Check out that link. Check out a link in the show notes- Name of my friend's dog... Plutonium? Alf. Oh. [laughs] Plutonium. Yeah, there- [growls] There'll be a link- Okay...
17:55
to that contest in the show notes. So one of my favorite photographers, Tom McDonald, out there in San Diego, uh, he shared a blog with us that gives a glimpse of the fat bike paradise known to the, uh, Vikings.
18:09
Hear that, Spinner? The Vikings named it Newfound Land. So, uh, I don't know. Dude. I'm lost. [laughs] Dude. I'm lost. You know- [in a British accent] How's it going out there on the PED?
18:22
[laughs] [laughs] So, uh, why am I- I have two beers in-... my hands? [laughs] Why? Well, finish one of them and be done with it. I'm working on it. All right. It's early.
18:34
So Tom McDonald's blog and- Oh, one of my favorite- [laughs]... fat bike photographers, Tom McDonald, shared a blog with us, and it gives us a glimpse of the fat biking paradise that the Vikings called Newfound Land.
18:49
So I'd like to take this opportunity to give a shout-out- [in a British accent] Shout-out, eh?... to our Canadian brothers and sisters. How's it going out there in the- All, all 12 of you-... PE?...
18:58
are listening to our show up there, eh? That's, uh, Prince Edward Island up there. We just gotta go- So, uh- We should have our next, uh, corporate meeting up in- [laughs]... Canada there. In New Brunswick.
19:08
Yeah, we should go to Halifax, eh? Oh, yeah. We could, [laughs] we could see, we could see, stop by and see Julian. [laughs] We could go to, we could go visit Alex at RSD on our way.
19:18
Yeah, we could do all sorts of stuff up there in Canada, eh? So can either of you guys do the East Coast Atlantic Fat Bike Gangsters, eh? [laughs] Uh... [laughs] We got that into him? No. Oh, that's the, the- [sings]
19:34
Know what I'm saying? [laughs] [sings] Know what I'm saying? That's good. [laughs] This is J-Roc- Ain't no, uh-... with the East Coast Atlantic Fat Bike Gangsters. [sings] Know what I'm saying?
19:43
[sings] Know what I'm saying? [sings] Say-say-say-say-say-say-saying? Say s- s- s- s- saying. You say know what I'm saying too much, know what I'm saying?
19:50
[laughs] [coughs] If you guys, [laughs] any of you out there write about fat biking on the web and would like to have us check out what you're talking about, we'd love to know about it.
19:59
Shoot me an email to
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, and you just might get mentioned on this fantastic show. And we'll end this weekly dose with a parting shot from Colin Atkins.
20:12
Colin sent us a gorgeous panoramic shot of his Borealis Echo at Rivington Pike- That's Carlos-... northwest England... entering the room- [laughs]... making all that racket back there. I got beer. He's got beer, though.
20:23
[laughs] Go into the show notes and take a look at the old, uh, English countryside- It's a awesome picture... where, where your great-granny came from. Oh, it- Shout out to Colin from another mother. Whoo.
20:35
Yeah, right on. There's a picture. You know- Look at it... hey, everybody, Carlos showed up just in time for us to, uh, say goodbye. [laughs] [in a Spanish accent] Deuces, caminos, amigos.
20:46
He was here for the segment about flavor. He went and got beer, and then he came back. Isn't that awesome? [laughs] With beer. With beer. [laughs] Thanks, everybody. Peace out.
20:55
We should probably thank, uh, Surly Bikes one more time- Oh, yeah. Let's-... sponsor of the show.
20:59
Hey, thanks, Surly, for having a great bike company and, uh, doing awesome stuff and making bikes that ride like they should and not aluminum piles of junk. Does Colin have an opinion on steel bikes or what? I- [laughs]
21:16
And- Inventors of the Pugsley... and- Know what I'm saying?... we're outta here. [laughs] Whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop. [upbeat music] Wow, how long does it take to do a show? As long as it takes us.
21:31
You've been listening to Fat Bike Radio's Weekly Dose of Fat. Find us on the web at fat-bike.com/radio. We'll see you next time.
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